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	<title>Comments on: Lawsuit puts BurnLounge in Hot Water</title>
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		<title>By: Julius</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-48716</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info - I'll check it out :-)
Nice Blog by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info - I&#8217;ll check it out <img src='http://www.hoei.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Nice Blog by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Maz</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-34553</link>
		<dc:creator>Maz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lane:

Any reason you're ducking the commentary at the BL discussion forum.

Many people have been dying to hear your defense of the latest Burnlounge debacle. Come home. We miss you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lane:</p>
<p>Any reason you&#8217;re ducking the commentary at the BL discussion forum.</p>
<p>Many people have been dying to hear your defense of the latest Burnlounge debacle. Come home. We miss you.</p>
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		<title>By: resolvemydispute.com</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-34456</link>
		<dc:creator>resolvemydispute.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0623201/index.shtm

story: http://search.ftc.gov/cs.html?url=http%3A//www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/06/burnlounge.shtm&#38;charset=iso-8859-1&#38;qt=burnlounge&#38;col=full+hsr+news&#38;n=1&#38;la=en

actual case complaint  links.

I was bought in and never entered my credit card right at BL2 launch. JangleFish 2.


As a professional audio engineer and producer my intuition was right.
visit my page at www.myspace.com/themadengineer

As a consumer advocate www.resolvemydispute.com will  report online fraud claims if your not refunded or responded to with a solution. We are listed with econsumer.gov and are going worldwide to help consumers.

Thanks
LR_Shedwood
www.shedwood.com</description>
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<p>story: <a href="http://search.ftc.gov/cs.html?url=http%3A//www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/06/burnlounge.shtm&amp;charset=iso-8859-1&amp;qt=burnlounge&amp;col=full+hsr+news&amp;n=1&amp;la=en" rel="nofollow">http://search.ftc.gov/cs.html?url=http%3A//www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/06/burnlounge.shtm&amp;charset=iso-8859-1&amp;qt=burnlounge&amp;col=full+hsr+news&amp;n=1&amp;la=en</a></p>
<p>actual case complaint  links.</p>
<p>I was bought in and never entered my credit card right at BL2 launch. JangleFish 2.</p>
<p>As a professional audio engineer and producer my intuition was right.<br />
visit my page at <a href="http://www.myspace.com/themadengineer" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/themadengineer</a></p>
<p>As a consumer advocate <a href="http://www.resolvemydispute.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.resolvemydispute.com</a> will  report online fraud claims if your not refunded or responded to with a solution. We are listed with econsumer.gov and are going worldwide to help consumers.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
LR_Shedwood<br />
<a href="http://www.shedwood.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.shedwood.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-34450</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What confuses people with Burnlounge is that they have two distinctly separate compensation plans.  The front-end plan is based on building the network of distributors, and is solely for those who opt for the mogul add-on to their paid retail package.  

The most expensive package has the fewest roadblocks to realizing the largest earnings from bonuses associated with network building, but it is not necessarily the best option for everyone, even if they wish to participate in the team building aspect.  For example, an artist who anticipates that they will be able to sell a lot of music through their own personal store in a short amount of time might decide to sign up as a Basic mogul (the cheapest of the paid plans).  Once they meet the initial sales quota, they can receive the full value of the bonuses, just as the VIP retailers do.  Of course, they would also be foregoing some of the products that the more expensive packages receive, but that is up to each retailer to decide for themselves.

The back-end plan, also referred to as the concentric retail plan, is for all retailers, and the commissions are paid on the sale of products only.  Even free retailers can earn rewards from the sale of products through their own store, as well as any stores that signed up directly through them.  Free store owners can not convert their rewards to cash, but they can redeem their rewards for company products, such as downloads and merchandise.  They can also opt to use these rewards to upgrade their package to a paid plan, if they so choose.  

The compensation plan is very well thought out, but it is not a simple one.  I admit that the presentation of the key elements of the plan could use a little fine tuning, because it is routinely misinterpreted, making my job as a retailer a bit more difficult, since I often find myself having to clarify certain elements of it to those who are misreading it.

For those who wish to learn more about the compensation model, I suggest you go to www.burnlounge.com, and click on the tab labeled 'What is Burnlounge', then navigate down to 'The Programs' under that.  You won't get all the details, but you will get a brief introduction.  If you want more information, you can go to www.burnrewards.com, and download the full official compensation plan under 'Hot Links'.

If you have further questions, I would be happy to address them.  Feel free to visit my page, or e-mail me at LSK@LounginginSD.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What confuses people with Burnlounge is that they have two distinctly separate compensation plans.  The front-end plan is based on building the network of distributors, and is solely for those who opt for the mogul add-on to their paid retail package.  </p>
<p>The most expensive package has the fewest roadblocks to realizing the largest earnings from bonuses associated with network building, but it is not necessarily the best option for everyone, even if they wish to participate in the team building aspect.  For example, an artist who anticipates that they will be able to sell a lot of music through their own personal store in a short amount of time might decide to sign up as a Basic mogul (the cheapest of the paid plans).  Once they meet the initial sales quota, they can receive the full value of the bonuses, just as the VIP retailers do.  Of course, they would also be foregoing some of the products that the more expensive packages receive, but that is up to each retailer to decide for themselves.</p>
<p>The back-end plan, also referred to as the concentric retail plan, is for all retailers, and the commissions are paid on the sale of products only.  Even free retailers can earn rewards from the sale of products through their own store, as well as any stores that signed up directly through them.  Free store owners can not convert their rewards to cash, but they can redeem their rewards for company products, such as downloads and merchandise.  They can also opt to use these rewards to upgrade their package to a paid plan, if they so choose.  </p>
<p>The compensation plan is very well thought out, but it is not a simple one.  I admit that the presentation of the key elements of the plan could use a little fine tuning, because it is routinely misinterpreted, making my job as a retailer a bit more difficult, since I often find myself having to clarify certain elements of it to those who are misreading it.</p>
<p>For those who wish to learn more about the compensation model, I suggest you go to <a href="http://www.burnlounge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.burnlounge.com</a>, and click on the tab labeled &#8216;What is Burnlounge&#8217;, then navigate down to &#8216;The Programs&#8217; under that.  You won&#8217;t get all the details, but you will get a brief introduction.  If you want more information, you can go to <a href="http://www.burnrewards.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.burnrewards.com</a>, and download the full official compensation plan under &#8216;Hot Links&#8217;.</p>
<p>If you have further questions, I would be happy to address them.  Feel free to visit my page, or e-mail me at <a href="mailto:LSK@LounginginSD.com">LSK@LounginginSD.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOzz</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-34410</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

Thanks for the clarification on the earnings in point one.  That does not minimize the requirement to drive traffic to a web site in order to make sales.   

On the second point, is it not required to purchase the most expensive package to realize the largest earnings quoted in the Burn Team literature?  How much can a person earn from a sale made from their free package?  I think I know the answer, but I would appreciate clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification on the earnings in point one.  That does not minimize the requirement to drive traffic to a web site in order to make sales.   </p>
<p>On the second point, is it not required to purchase the most expensive package to realize the largest earnings quoted in the Burn Team literature?  How much can a person earn from a sale made from their free package?  I think I know the answer, but I would appreciate clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.hoei.com/blog/archives/2007/06/11/369/#comment-34405</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to make two quick points related to your statements.  

First, you are slightly mistaken in your interpretation of the compenstation plan.  While you state correctly that orders less than $9.90 do not count towards meeting your sales quota, what you are mistaken about is that you actually still earn revenue from those sales.  Admittedly, the verbage in the compensation plan is a little unclear, so your interpetation is understandable.

Second, you are highlighting the most expensive package, which is certainly not for everyone.  Burnlounge actually offers packages at four different price levels, including one which is actually free.  Since people can get their own free package and then give their friends one in turn, the social network could grow quite rapidly.  Presuming, of course, that Burnlounge can adequately show the courts they are not, in fact, a pyramid scheme.

Lane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to make two quick points related to your statements.  </p>
<p>First, you are slightly mistaken in your interpretation of the compenstation plan.  While you state correctly that orders less than $9.90 do not count towards meeting your sales quota, what you are mistaken about is that you actually still earn revenue from those sales.  Admittedly, the verbage in the compensation plan is a little unclear, so your interpetation is understandable.</p>
<p>Second, you are highlighting the most expensive package, which is certainly not for everyone.  Burnlounge actually offers packages at four different price levels, including one which is actually free.  Since people can get their own free package and then give their friends one in turn, the social network could grow quite rapidly.  Presuming, of course, that Burnlounge can adequately show the courts they are not, in fact, a pyramid scheme.</p>
<p>Lane</p>
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